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Upendra Adarkar
2014-01-13 21:16:35 UTC
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Hi guru
i am using Pretty Good Privacy(tm) Version 6.5.8
we are dealing with financial data. in my system i have created key 
RSA  2048      <key string> 2013/06/10 expires 2015/06/10  *** DEFAULT SIGNING KEY *** <Local User ID> File_Transfer_Services 

and this key i send tofinancial department. when i getfile encrypted from them with my fingerprints. 
and i tried to decrypt i getfollowing error.

bash-3.00$ /opt/PGP/pgp -p <File-Recd-From-them.pgp>
Pretty Good Privacy(tm) Version 6.5.8
(c) 1999 Network Associates Inc.
Uses the RSAREF(tm) Toolkit, which is copyright RSA Data Security, Inc.
Export of this software may be restricted by the U.S. government.

File is encrypted.  Secret key is required to read it.

Key for user ID: <my local user id>
2048-bit RSA key, Key ID <My-User-key-ID>, created 2013/06/10, expires 2015/06/10
Key can sign.
Also known as: File_Transfer_Services


can you please guide me where i am in fault?
how i can resolve this issue?

Regards
Upendra
Robert J. Hansen
2014-01-13 21:35:28 UTC
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Post by Upendra Adarkar
i am using Pretty Good Privacy(tm) Version 6.5.8
PGP 6.5.8 is over fifteen years old. It is obsolete. You may want to
upgrade to a more recent version of PGP or GnuPG.
Post by Upendra Adarkar
and i tried to decrypt i getfollowing error.
I don't see any error here.
Post by Upendra Adarkar
bash-3.00$ /opt/PGP/pgp -p <File-Recd-From-them.pgp>
Pretty Good Privacy(tm) Version 6.5.8
(c) 1999 Network Associates Inc.
Uses the RSAREF(tm) Toolkit, which is copyright RSA Data Security, Inc.
Export of this software may be restricted by the U.S. government.
File is encrypted.  Secret key is required to read it.
Key for user ID: <my local user id>
2048-bit RSA key, Key ID <My-User-key-ID>, created 2013/06/10,
expires 2015/06/10
Key can sign.
Also known as: File_Transfer_Services
Where is the error message?



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2014-01-13 21:59:23 UTC
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Hi Robert


error message "File is encrypted. Secret key is required to read it."
i consider this as a error message because, i have already key for this user id in my database.
and this key is created by me only.
if i give pgp -kv i can see the keys for my user in my keyring database.
output of pgp -kv


RSA 2048 <Key-ID. 2013/06/10 expires 2015/06/10
*** DEFAULT SIGNING KEY ***
<my-User name>

File_Transfer_Services


and i could not decrypt it. so would you please guide me where i am going wrong?



as per your recommendation upgrade software is in my wishlist but at present we are in not in position to do the same because many projects are running


Regards
Upendra
Bob Jonkman
2014-01-13 23:14:01 UTC
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After you have run the command
Post by Upendra Adarkar
bash-3.00$ /opt/PGP/pgp -p <File-Recd-From-them.pgp>
you should see a new, decrypted file "File-Recd-From-them" (without the
.pgp extension) in the same folder as "File-Recd-From-them.pgp"
Post by Upendra Adarkar
File is encrypted. Secret key is required to read it.
This is not an error message, but a status or progress message. If your
PGP passphrase was cached then PGP continues on without asking for your
passphrase again.

--Bob.
Post by Upendra Adarkar
Hi guru
i am using Pretty Good Privacy(tm) Version 6.5.8
we are dealing with financial data. in my system i have created key
RSA 2048 <key string> 2013/06/10 expires 2015/06/10 *** DEFAULT SIGNING KEY *** <Local User ID> File_Transfer_Services
and this key i send tofinancial department. when i getfile encrypted from them with my fingerprints.
and i tried to decrypt i getfollowing error.
bash-3.00$ /opt/PGP/pgp -p <File-Recd-From-them.pgp>
Pretty Good Privacy(tm) Version 6.5.8
(c) 1999 Network Associates Inc.
Uses the RSAREF(tm) Toolkit, which is copyright RSA Data Security, Inc.
Export of this software may be restricted by the U.S. government.
File is encrypted. Secret key is required to read it.
Key for user ID: <my local user id>
2048-bit RSA key, Key ID <My-User-key-ID>, created 2013/06/10, expires 2015/06/10
Key can sign.
Also known as: File_Transfer_Services
can you please guide me where i am in fault?
how i can resolve this issue?
Regards
Upendra
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Upendra Adarkar
2014-01-14 16:10:45 UTC
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Hi Bob
thansk a lot for the replay. Pass phrese is in the cache. so as you rightly said it is not asking me pass phrese 
but it did not decrypt also. it just come out with following message. 

File is encrypted.  Secret key is required to read it.

Key for user ID: <My-User-Name>
2048-bit RSA key, Key ID <My-user-KeyID>, created 2013/06/10, expires 2015/06/10
Key can sign.
Also known as: File_Transfer_Services 

would you please express your views why this is not able to decrypt?

Regards
Upendra





On Monday, 13 January 2014 6:15 PM, Bob Jonkman <***@sobac.com> wrote:

 
After you have run the command
Post by Upendra Adarkar
bash-3.00$ /opt/PGP/pgp -p <File-Recd-From-them.pgp>
you should see a new, decrypted file "File-Recd-From-them" (without the
.pgp extension) in the same folder as "File-Recd-From-them.pgp"
Post by Upendra Adarkar
File is encrypted. Secret key is required to read it.
This is not an error message, but a status or progress message. If your
PGP passphrase was cached then PGP continues on without asking for your
passphrase again.

--Bob.
Post by Upendra Adarkar
Hi guru
i am using Pretty Good Privacy(tm) Version 6.5.8
we are dealing with financial data. in my system i have created key
RSA 2048 <key string> 2013/06/10 expires 2015/06/10 *** DEFAULT SIGNING KEY *** <Local User ID> File_Transfer_Services
and this key i send tofinancial department. when i getfile encrypted from them with my fingerprints.
and i tried to decrypt i getfollowing error.
bash-3.00$ /opt/PGP/pgp -p <File-Recd-From-them.pgp>
Pretty Good Privacy(tm) Version 6.5.8
(c) 1999 Network Associates Inc.
Uses the RSAREF(tm) Toolkit, which is copyright RSA Data Security, Inc.
Export of this software may be restricted by the U.S. government.
File is encrypted. Secret key is required to read it.
Key for user ID: <my local user id>
2048-bit RSA key, Key ID <My-User-key-ID>, created 2013/06/10, expires 2015/06/10
Key can sign.
Also known as: File_Transfer_Services
can you please guide me where i am in fault?
how i can resolve this issue?
Regards
Upendra
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Bob Jonkman
2014-01-15 09:48:44 UTC
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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Hash: SHA1

Sorry I'm not able to offer more detailed help. I'm using GnuPG on
Linux, not PGP on Windows, so I can't reproduce your output (and even
if I find a fix it wouldn't apply to your version).

So, on my system decrypting a file looks like this:

gpg -d somefile.pgp

which produces this output:

=====
gpg: anonymous recipient; trying secret key 0xF60FD5A61A237CC4 ...
gpg: okay, we are the anonymous recipient.
gpg: encrypted with 4096-bit RSA key, ID 0x0000000000000000, created
2013-12-12
"UserID <***@example.com>"
gpg: encrypted with ELG key, ID 0x00000000

text of somefile

gpg: Signature made Wed 15 Jan 2014 03:18:11 AM EST
gpg: using DSA key 0xB91289B0D2CCE5EA
gpg: Good signature from "Bob Jonkman <***@sobac.com>"
=====



- --Bob.
Hi Bob thansk a lot for the replay. Pass phrese is in the cache. so
as you rightly said it is not asking me pass phrese but it did not
decrypt also. it just come out with following message.
File is encrypted. Secret key is required to read it.
Key for user ID: <My-User-Name> 2048-bit RSA key, Key ID
<My-user-KeyID>, created 2013/06/10, expires 2015/06/10 Key can
sign. Also known as: File_Transfer_Services
would you please express your views why this is not able to
decrypt?
Regards Upendra
On Monday, 13 January 2014 6:15 PM, Bob Jonkman
After you have run the command
Post by Upendra Adarkar
bash-3.00$ /opt/PGP/pgp -p <File-Recd-From-them.pgp>
you should see a new, decrypted file "File-Recd-From-them" (without
the .pgp extension) in the same folder as
"File-Recd-From-them.pgp"
Post by Upendra Adarkar
File is encrypted. Secret key is required to read it.
This is not an error message, but a status or progress message. If
your PGP passphrase was cached then PGP continues on without asking
for your passphrase again.
--Bob.
Post by Upendra Adarkar
Hi guru i am using Pretty Good Privacy(tm) Version 6.5.8 we are
dealing with financial data. in my system i have created key RSA
2048 <key string> 2013/06/10 expires 2015/06/10 *** DEFAULT
SIGNING KEY *** <Local User ID> File_Transfer_Services
and this key i send tofinancial department. when i getfile
encrypted from them with my fingerprints. and i tried to decrypt
i getfollowing error.
bash-3.00$ /opt/PGP/pgp -p <File-Recd-From-them.pgp> Pretty Good
Privacy(tm) Version 6.5.8 (c) 1999 Network Associates Inc. Uses
the RSAREF(tm) Toolkit, which is copyright RSA Data Security,
Inc. Export of this software may be restricted by the U.S.
government.
File is encrypted. Secret key is required to read it.
Key for user ID: <my local user id> 2048-bit RSA key, Key ID
<My-User-key-ID>, created 2013/06/10, expires 2015/06/10 Key can
sign. Also known as: File_Transfer_Services
can you please guide me where i am in fault? how i can resolve
this issue?
Regards Upendra
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
Version: GnuPG v1.4.14 (GNU/Linux)
Comment: Ensure confidentiality, authenticity, non-repudiability

iEYEARECAAYFAlLWWXgACgkQuRKJsNLM5eoPGQCggskb4+OedVAcNqcd+WFLdi86
8z4An05ip2cZFIheS9ScafwZ+ivaim9c
=yyGF
-----END PGP SIGNATURE-----


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Upendra Adarkar
2014-01-15 20:00:33 UTC
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Hi Bob 
i appriciate your help 
i am using pgp on solaris. 

follwoing is output of command pgp -d 
---
bash-3.00$ pgp -d <File Name>.pgp
Pretty Good Privacy(tm) Version 6.5.8
(c) 1999 Network Associates Inc.
Uses the RSAREF(tm) Toolkit, which is copyright RSA Data Security, Inc.
Export of this software may be restricted by the U.S. government.

File is encrypted.  Secret key is required to read it.

Key for user ID: <XXXXX>
2048-bit RSA key, Key ID <xxxxxxxxx>, created 2013/06/10, expires 2015/06/10
Key can sign.
Also known as: File_Transfer_Services
--------
and file could not get decrypted. 

my doubt is my key-id and pass phress is already in pring and securing database of pgp. 
then why it could not decrypt?

where could be the problem?


regards
Upendra
 




On Wednesday, 15 January 2014 4:49 AM, Bob Jonkman <***@sobac.com> wrote:

 
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Hash: SHA1

Sorry I'm not able to offer more detailed help. I'm using GnuPG on
Linux, not PGP on Windows, so I can't reproduce your output (and even
if I find a fix it wouldn't apply to your version).

So, on my system decrypting a file looks like this:

gpg -d somefile.pgp

which produces this output:

=====
gpg: anonymous recipient; trying secret key 0xF60FD5A61A237CC4 ...
gpg: okay, we are the anonymous recipient.
gpg: encrypted with 4096-bit RSA key, ID 0x0000000000000000, created
2013-12-12
"UserID <***@example.com>"
gpg: encrypted with ELG key, ID 0x00000000

text of somefile

gpg: Signature made Wed 15 Jan 2014 03:18:11 AM EST
gpg: using DSA key 0xB91289B0D2CCE5EA
gpg: Good signature from "Bob Jonkman <***@sobac.com>"
=====

- --Bob.
Hi Bob thansk a lot for the replay. Pass phrese is in the cache. so
as you rightly said it is not asking me pass phrese but it did not
decrypt also. it just come out with following message.
File is encrypted. Secret key is required to read it.
Key for user ID: <My-User-Name> 2048-bit RSA key, Key ID
<My-user-KeyID>, created 2013/06/10, expires 2015/06/10 Key can
sign. Also known as: File_Transfer_Services
would you please express your views why this is not able to
decrypt?
Regards Upendra
On Monday, 13 January 2014 6:15 PM, Bob Jonkman
After you have run the command
Post by Upendra Adarkar
bash-3.00$ /opt/PGP/pgp -p <File-Recd-From-them.pgp>
you should see a new, decrypted file "File-Recd-From-them" (without
the .pgp extension) in the same folder as
"File-Recd-From-them.pgp"
Post by Upendra Adarkar
File is encrypted. Secret key is required to read it.
This is not an error message, but a status or progress message. If
your PGP passphrase was cached then PGP continues on without asking
for your passphrase again.
--Bob.
Post by Upendra Adarkar
Hi guru i am using Pretty Good Privacy(tm) Version 6.5.8 we are
dealing with financial data. in my system i have created key RSA
2048 <key string> 2013/06/10 expires 2015/06/10 *** DEFAULT
SIGNING KEY *** <Local User ID> File_Transfer_Services
and this key i send tofinancial department. when i getfile
encrypted from them with my fingerprints. and i tried to decrypt
i getfollowing error.
bash-3.00$ /opt/PGP/pgp -p <File-Recd-From-them.pgp> Pretty Good
Privacy(tm) Version 6.5.8 (c) 1999 Network Associates Inc. Uses
the RSAREF(tm) Toolkit, which is copyright RSA Data Security,
Inc. Export of this software may be restricted by the U.S.
government.
File is encrypted. Secret key is required to read it.
Key for user ID: <my local user id> 2048-bit RSA key, Key ID
<My-User-key-ID>, created 2013/06/10, expires 2015/06/10 Key can
sign. Also known as: File_Transfer_Services
can you please guide me where i am in fault? how i can resolve
this issue?
Regards Upendra
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Robert J. Hansen
2014-01-15 22:12:01 UTC
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At risk of repeating advice that may be unhelpful, migrate to a newer
version of PGP or GnuPG. You're using a piece of software that's over
fifteen years old. This is going to hamper people's efforts to help
you. It's sort of like asking questions about Windows 98 device
drivers -- there just aren't that many people around who can help you.
follwoing is output of command pgp -d 
---
bash-3.00$ pgp -d <File Name>.pgp
Pretty Good Privacy(tm) Version 6.5.8
(c) 1999 Network Associates Inc.
Uses the RSAREF(tm) Toolkit, which is copyright RSA Data Security, Inc.
Export of this software may be restricted by the U.S. government.
File is encrypted.  Secret key is required to read it.
Key for user ID: <XXXXX>
2048-bit RSA key, Key ID <xxxxxxxxx>, created 2013/06/10, expires 2015/06/10
Key can sign.
Also known as: File_Transfer_Services
--------
and file could not get decrypted. 
How do you know this? I don't see anything in that output that says
it couldn't be decrypted. What behavior do you expect to happen, and
what behavior are you looking for?




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Upendra Adarkar
2014-01-16 18:11:11 UTC
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Hi Robert, 
i understand your irritation and appreciated your help. 
as you asked me the expected behaviour. 
original file is text files (i.e. abced.txt after decytion it became abcde.txt.pgp) and  am looking for text output which is not produced after command 
pgp abcde.txt.pgp -o abcde.txt
output of above command should be abcde.txt it is not genrated. it just comeout. 

and if you think that this problem is only  due to older version please tell me.

Regards
Upendra


 



On Wednesday, 15 January 2014 5:12 PM, Robert J. Hansen <***@sixdemonbag.org> wrote:

 
At risk of repeating advice that may be unhelpful, migrate to a newer
version of PGP or GnuPG. You're using a piece of software that's over
fifteen years old. This is going to hamper people's efforts to help
you. It's sort of like asking questions about Windows 98 device
drivers -- there just aren't that many people around who can help you.
Post by Upendra Adarkar
follwoing is output of command pgp -d 
---
bash-3.00$ pgp -d <File Name>.pgp
Pretty Good Privacy(tm) Version 6.5.8
(c) 1999 Network Associates Inc.
Uses the RSAREF(tm) Toolkit, which is copyright RSA Data Security, Inc.
Export of this software may be restricted by the U.S. government.
File is encrypted.  Secret key is required to read it.
Key for user ID: <XXXXX>
2048-bit RSA key, Key ID <xxxxxxxxx>, created 2013/06/10, expires 2015/06/10
Key can sign.
Also known as: File_Transfer_Services
--------
and file could not get decrypted. 
How do you know this? I don't see anything in that output that says
it couldn't be decrypted. What behavior do you expect to happen, and
what behavior are you looking for?
Robert J. Hansen
2014-01-16 19:25:59 UTC
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I apologize for the tone of this email. I'm honestly not losing my
temper. If I explain something at great length here, it's because I
want you to understand that this is really important -- not that I'm
yelling at you.
output of above command should be abcde.txt it is not genrated. it
just comeout. 
Okay. In that case, yes, this definitely seems like a defect in
6.5.8. Which should not be surprising, because it's fifteen years
old. How many other pieces of fifteen year old software do you
currently use? PGP 6.5.8 was never designed to run on a modern
environment. It's of about the same vintage as a Pentium II processor.

You have asked us several times to help you with your problem. A few
different people have all told you that your problem is you are using
an ancient version of PGP that can no longer be expected to work
reliably with modern operating systems or hardware. You have two
choices here: you can continue to say "I want to keep using PGP
6.5.8," in which case what you're really saying is "I don't want to
fix my real problem," or you can say "I want to use a modern OpenPGP
application."

To fix your problem, upgrade to a modern OpenPGP application. I would
suggest GnuPG (http://www.gnupg.org), which is free of charge and
provides source code. If you want to pay Symantec for a PGP 10
license, that would probably work, too.

But what is *not* working for you is continuing to use PGP 6.5.8.




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2014-01-17 13:38:35 UTC
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Hi Upendra,

Many command line programs want the "object" of the program "verb" to be at the end of the command line, I think. So, maybe try:
pgp -o abcde.txt abcde.txt.pgp

Perhaps you can send us the output of any of the following commands that might give us some pgp usage instructions:
pgp -?
pgp -h
pgp --help
Or something like that?

Good luck,
Pete

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Hi Robert,
i understand your irritation and appreciated your help.
as you asked me the expected behaviour.
original file is text files (i.e. abced.txt after decytion it became abcde.txt.pgp) and am looking for text output which is not produced after command
pgp abcde.txt.pgp -o abcde.txt
output of above command should be abcde.txt it is not genrated. it just comeout.



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Upendra Adarkar
2014-01-17 18:50:13 UTC
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Hi Roberts 
thanks a lot for the suggestion and help. i can understand your concern. 
i will take upgrade at priority. 
this is probably  my last question for this version. 
i would like to know , is there any command or flag for checking  presence of ID key in secring?   
regards
Upendra




On Friday, 17 January 2014 8:38 AM, "***@tebuco.com" <***@tebuco.com> wrote:

 
Hi Upendra,

Many command line programs want the "object" of the program "verb" to be at the end of the command line, I think. So, maybe try:
pgp -o abcde.txt abcde.txt.pgp

Perhaps you can send us the output of any of the following commands that might give us some pgp usage instructions:
pgp -?
pgp -h
pgp --help
Or something like that?

Good luck,
Pete

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Hi Robert,
i understand your irritation and appreciated your help.
as you asked me the expected behaviour.
original file is text files (i.e. abced.txt after decytion it became abcde.txt.pgp) and am looking for text output which is not produced after command
pgp abcde.txt.pgp -o abcde.txt
output of above command should be abcde.txt it is not genrated. it just comeout.
Michael Daigle
2014-01-16 14:15:48 UTC
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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Hash: RIPEMD160
follwoing is output of command pgp -d --- bash-3.00$ pgp -d <File
Name>.pgp Pretty Good Privacy(tm) Version 6.5.8 (c) 1999 Network
Associates Inc. Uses the RSAREF(tm) Toolkit, which is copyright RSA
Data Security, Inc. Export of this software may be restricted by
the U.S. government.
File is encrypted. Secret key is required to read it.
where could be the problem?
- From what is seen in the output you've shown, you don't possess the
private key corresponding to the public key that was used to encrypt
the message. Ask the sender to encrypt to a public key for which you
have the corresponding private key and ensure you are using the
correct passphrase for that key.

PGP 6.5.8 is very outdated. I cannot recall how, if there is a way at
all, to get a more verbose output so as to determine to which key(s)
the message was encrypted. From all appearances the message was not
encrypted to your public key, or you have entered the wrong passphrase.


- --
Mike Daigle http://www.mikedaigle.ca
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